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Trick or political trick in american history, because what they did here was they used the fact that they had access, not only to friendly media, but they had an entree into the government. the thing that comes out of the durham report that is most disturbing is, for example, the fbi didn't interview danchenko until february of 2017. they were in the fisa court in october 2016 bringing to the judges what was supposed to be a verified application, which means they are supposed to corroborate the information before they go to court. they didn't do it until much later. i think they are pushing on...

Today. this casts new uncertainty on the pass reporting of the dossier by news organizations including "the washington post." were these media organizations just said a pack of lies and are only too happy to print them? >> you don't say, huh? john, i think the really disturbing thing that comes out of this is, when you read the steele dossier, the allegations are outlandish on their face. anyone whether it was government or not seriously looking at this, if you had talked to danchenko for 10 minutes or talk to the clinton person, charles dolan, that was working with danchenko, if you talked to...

Dollars in the investigation? why didn't they find these individuals? why didn't they find sussmann and this pr executive and bring forth danchenko? where were they? >> that's a great question. another one that screams out from the indictment is the fbi didn't interview danchenko who turns out to be the main source of information for this dossier until january of 2017. they were in the fisa court in october of 2016. they are supposed to corroborate and verify the information before they go to the fisa court and use it to get surveillance eavesdropping warrants against the people they got again...