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Attribute it to trump because he doesn't know whether trump knew everything that dowd was saying, and he declined to interview dowd because of the attorney/client privilege. but basically, here it is. the witness, michael flynn, knows all this stuff about trump, and dowd is saying give us a heads-up, meaning tell us what he's going to tell mueller to protect all of our interests, and remember what a good man we think you are, and the pardon is dangled so that, in effect, flynn will be playing both sides of the street. there's no longer the joint defense going on, but the two of them can still ...

>> why is it damning and potentially obstructive for a president's lawyer conveying to a witness who's about to turn state's evidence, about to start working with prosecutors? can you spell out why that is potentially obstructive, potentially inappropriate or criminal to have that expression, the president likes you, the president wants you to remember how much he likes you, that's still in effect. what's the implication of is that? >> really important to break it down. the best explanation is in the mueller report because he presents it as one of those potentially obstructive acts that the pr...

And he declined to interview dowd because of the attorney/client privilege. but basically, here it is. the witness, michael flynn, knows all this stuff about trump, and dowd is saying give us a heads-up, meaning tell us what he's going to tell mueller to protect all of our interests, and remember what a good man we think you are, and the pardon is dangled so that, in effect, flynn will be playing both sides of the street. there's no longer the joint defense going on, but the two of them can still work together if dowd is informed and protect donald trump's interests. >> as flynn's case appears...