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Parties they want to keep it quiet. paying a huge severance check out of your office budget that no one in leadership has any kind of oversight over that you can just use it as a slush fund, taxpayer collars to pay off people that you've gloroped or assaulted or whatever is horrifying. the members know this happens which is why i do think they want to pass a law and never answer an interview question about this again. >> i totally agree. i mean, it doesn't make sense. i think they took a practice that does happen in business and applied it to the government but, you know, these people should -...

Privately expressed and that jeff sessions is aware of. there's nothing jeff sessions can do about it. there's nothing he should be doing. the president is frustrated with the whole world is against him and even his most loyal people that he expects loyalty from and this is him lashing out. >> heather: did it surprise you that he granted such a wide-ranging interview question mike i was struck by elements where he was trying to talk about the positive things that he's done and he seemed to me as not just the president of united states, but as a person that wanted to say, there are some other t...

The part that really got my attention was the roots of fascism, the things that have to happen, the argument that is made and made again and again and disseminated that is the kind of predicate. can you go into that a little bit? >> so one thing that vladimir putin and donald trump share outside of any conspiracies that may or may not exist is right out there in the open, and that's their attitude toward government, toward democracy and toward the way the countries are constituted. one thing that putin has trafficked in harkens back to the 1920s and '30s, and that's the belief that the world i...

Attention. the part that really got my attention was the roots of fascism, the things that half to happen, the argument that is made and made again and again and disseminated that is the kind of predicate. can you go into that a little bit? >> so one thing that vladimir putin and donald trump share outside of any conspiracies that may or may not exist is right out there in the open, and that's their attitude toward government, toward democracy and toward the way the countries are constituted. one thing that putin has trafficked in harkens back to the 1920s and '30s, and that's the belief that ...

And that's very much what we hear trump saying. and, you know, when trump responded to fox interview question about vladimir putin being a killer by saying, you know, is this country so innocent? that was such an extraordinary expression of the kind of moral equivalence and the belief that the world is rotten that we've never seen a president of this country express. >> let me talk about that or ask you about it in macro term, not a moral term. it's said what putin wants is a world order like we had before world war two, when the big powers, the colonial power, the french, the british, the por...