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That's probably a good thing in dealing although he did tweet last night and lean on the china relationship a little bit. speak to that issue, the way in which the president treats kim jong-un. >> he's very careful when speaking about kim jong-un. that's not necessarily a characteristic that applies to all of the things that he says. sometimes he is a little bit more impulsive. i think you're right to say he has been careful about kim jong-un. in fact, he braced him a little bit in our interview saying that is correct look, it's not easy for a 27-year-old to take over a regime from his father,...

It off as something else. there's no walking away from that history and i think it is pertinent to the legal issues that the court has to decide, but i think also on the broader merits the administration will have a very hard time demonstrating that the selection of these six countries was something other than arbitrary and that it was somehow a good indicator of who might hoo later commit an act of terrorism. if that was the criteria, you'd have to put pakistan or saudi arabia or others at the top of the list. >> you heard the president in that interview saying, quote, wiretap covers a lot of...

It was interesting when you think back to 5:00 this morning, 6:00, kellyanne conway earlier in the day on another network gave an interview saying that they hadn't gotten as much support as the rnc, from the republican establishment as they liked. a lot of people online interpreted that as they're trying to set the stage for a disappointing night. that is certainly not -- whatever the mood night have been essentiinternally early on >> it's beyond that. there was a story that broke many moons yesterday, the afternoon yesterday that said that john kasich scheduled a speech thursday afternoon in ...

Him over this period of time. so he's raised a lot of questions and i'm glad he's coming forward giving us new pieces of information. because hi campaign did not agree to cooperate with us. when we went to them and asked for the identities of these people some time ago they did not give us names and all of a sudden these names are fictitious he says. >> right. i know that you emailed them twice before and also once you had your findings and the campaign said they weren't going to comment. >> correct. >> let's talk about this. the issue of dr. carson in the interview saying, you know, you don't...

Look, this is invest gatded by seven congressional committees. this was set up by john boehner to try to hurt hillary clinton and nothing more. >> meanwhile, how are they trying to say that this former staffer, luke, is nothing more than a person with an ax to grind and trying to maybe take advantage of what kevin mccarthy said and seize this as an opportunity? >> well that's what i think you saw from the interview saying, look, this guy is pointing to dubious reasons as to why, in fact, he is going the direction of which he is going. i do think, though, the harm for gaudy in this case is that...