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It's the evidence that comes from that witness stand. and it leads to only one conclusion, and that is that mr. manafort is guilty and guilty as charged. harry, that emphasis about the witness stand when the defense does not call a single witness to the witness stand is the kind of thing that lands with juries. >> you know, i think it does. as many lawyers expected manafort not to testify, understood the rules of the game that he couldn't afforded to, but i think one finds again and again when one interviews jurors, they want to hear from the accused. and they combined his sitting down with a ...

That he couldn't afforded to, but i think one finds again and again when one interviews jurors, they want to hear from the accused. and they combined his sitting down with a really pretty weak, well, they haven't met their burden kind of closing argument, which is the last card in the deck as it were. as jill says, the witnesses are strong, but the documents which they will take back with them are particularly strong. there is really no reasonable doubt about manafort's having lied up and down lied to inflate income when he needed it, lied to reduce it when he wanted to get away with taxes. as...