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Said six times it exonerated the president. there was no collusion. when the first page of the report says they weren't looking at collusion. i see it as an intimidation tactic. >> you're not concerned chaent tell you things he should be able to tell you. it's not intimidating a witness in any way? >> i do think -- it's meant to intimidate mueller. i hope mueller will do the right thing. he said he wasn't going outside the bounds of the report. and frankly his report is a devastating report. so even if he just helps to provide context to the report, i think that's going to be very valuable to ...

Not-so-veiled warning. this is an intimidation tactic, against freedom of speech. >> we saw in that interview with fox news. tu pushing down on the white house administrati administration. >> what struck me was vul mainny talking with chris matthews, he chuckled at the motion that the president has a problem here. >> it's more than odd. it might be as outrageous, that someone would make a joke out of it. and it's more of the same coming from this administration. not wanting to be fair and critical about the right-wing extremists. i just had a picture of right wing extremism in my gas.

Yesterday. matt gaetz was there sort of lurking. what did he tell you he was doing in the room? >> this was weird. gaetz was in and out of the room for most of the morning, though he left when the first break happened, shortly before news outlets started reporting the idea he was being investigated by the bar association for his comments. i followed him out of the hearing room and asked him what he was doing there, he brushed it off, oh, i'm just doing my job as a congressman. there were other members who weren't a member of that panel by gaetz's presence goes to the same sort of lurking intim...

Tonight. most people who heard this story, even if you don't get into all the details say, wow, who thinks they're going to get away with trying to thuggishly take out and intimidate the richest man in the world. these cats. why? >> why? because they've been doing it foe decades. we talked to two private investigators today. they're both colorful characters, i might add. one is a former porn star turned private investigator. the other guy just got out of the joint for a gambling operation. >> our viewers can handle it. it's late friday night. but, nicholas christof is a pulitzer prize winning ...

Nicholas is a pulitzer prize winning new york journalists who does humanitarian investigations. let's keep it at his level. >> they are helping refugees and they came back to describe what they did for the national enquirer which is the same kind of intimidation tactic over and over again. everybody we talked to in conjunction with the national enquirer today, every veteran and we didn't just talk to those guys. they used the term blackmail. used it over and over again. >> i'll slow you down but give you the mike back. this is a criminal business model. >> i'm not going to use the term -- >> y...