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And lisa bloom who is wendy's attorney. wendy, how did that phone call go today? >> i was surprised it was really professional. i think it was an outside agency because she didn't recognize the name bill o'reilly and didn't know about "the o'reilly factor." she was very neutral. so i like that. if somebody else is calling in, they just want the story told and somebody to get the facts down to begin an investigation. >> let me quickly check with lisa on the legal point. because i was struck, lisa, that o'reilly's lawyer would threaten to sue wendy but that is a common intimidation tactic. he ha...

Down to begin an investigation. >> let me quickly check with lisa on the legal point. because i was struck, lisa, that o'reilly's lawyer would threaten to sue wendy but that is a common intimidation tactic. he has threatened to sue me. i begged him to because i would love to get him in a deposition and that's why i begged him to sue me again within this story about wendy and i know he won't and i'm sure he won't sue wendy. he won't dare but give me your legal reading of that. >> we're so proud of you for doing that. wendy's in a very different situation and when she got that scary lawyer's let...

And there's no debate that if folks are uncometed. >> the department of homeland security, they put together a list of cities that limit the cooperation with with i.c.e. so, what's the standing there? do you think that's an intimidation tactic? >> that's absolutely what it is. it's a name and shame tactic. when you look through the risk and what landed many jurisdiction, counties, jails or cities on that list, i mean, some of the actions are very frivolous, for example, providence is on that list. i've said very proudly our city is a sanctuary city. meaning that we stand with our immigrant com...

Grope these other women, because they weren't good looking enough. as though groping is some kind of beauty prize. it's a compliment. >> his response has been despicable. worsened his problem, and he seems to not be able to help himself. i mean, talk to his surrogates and people around him. this is his instinct to fight and fight and fight. he's fought himself into a dump and keeps digging. >> the problem, look at polling, most voters think he did these things -- telegraphed it with his own words, and now from a female perspective, when he says i'm going to sue these women, a lot of women view...

Their work observed, and by having representatives that stand over their shoulders, and having state and local officials over see the entire process, and then having the elections take place in one open space and then having all the records available for public inspection. >> and the informal adviser to donald trump, roger stone, plans on conducting his own exit polling, and from your perspective does this sound to you like an intimidation tactic? >> i have not heard that report and i don't know what mr. stone has in mind, and the bigger concern from me are the comments from people that listen...