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Chancellor. were the diplomatic talks with the west real ever or was is just part of a strategy to buy time? >> you know, jake, i think that the u.s. secretary of state, tony blinken, said the other day that they never really were for real and it was putin's intention all along to invade ukraine. he said that tragically just a day before the invasion standing alongside the ukrainian foreign minister here in washington. you know, it's my view that there never was a real diplomatic process largely because putin's demands were of the kind that it's impossible to negotiate with. he set forth essen...

Frayer. >> reporter: going into this call, it was china that wanted to talk. also to let it be known that china is not open to threats. china wants to appear to be a neutral player in this, jose, which many people see it debatable. china/russia ties have deepen in the years that xi jinping and vladimir putin have both been in power, just less than three weeks before the russian invasion standing side by side declaring a friendship with no limits. from the chinese perspective, they tried to explain their partnership with russia as one of strategic convenience and that they are aligned together ...