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For being here. >> thank you. >> let me get your reaction to his reporting of congressman jordan, jim jordan and mark meadows. a advising the president coming to what's taking place in the depositions behind closed doors. >> it is not a closed process because the republicans have been there. jordan, me dos have been there. > right. >> that you are immediate counsel has been there. interrogating, questioning the witnesses. this is an investigation process and this should be a -- in a confined environment because first and foremost we want to protect the witnesses, we want to make sure that any ...

Has come to the forefront, but they will now get that information on october 30th, pending appeal. and right now we're told at least up on capitol hill, republicans expect that to occur. that could delay things a little bit. but there's no question about it, wolf. for democrats that have been looking for legal victories throughout the course of this lengthy investigation process, and for the now very new impeachment inquiry, they have been given grounds on the impeachment front and they certainly scored a victory on the russia investigation front as well, wolf. >> phil mattingly up on capitol ...

That device. but i do know the more we hear witnesses speak about this, the more evidence we get, like the nixon tapes, the american people will begin to understand this even better. even republicans are now going to begin to shift their position on impeachment? >> are you sure of that? >> i think republicans will shift -- we've seen senator romney, what he's doing in the senate. we've seen some governors, also, their position on impeachment. we've seen the poll numbers. the more you get from witnesses that are obviously being told not to testify, i think the american people will have a fuller...

So he said that in numerous conversations that are recorded. >> give me one. >> in press conferences. >> give me the context of one time he ever used it. now where, how. >> he's used it, do me a favor by saying, hey, why don't we do this, not as an exchange for information but i would say, hey, why don't we go to dinner tonight. that's not something that's saying i'm trying to bribe you for anything but saying, hey, why don't you do this and that is a legitimate ask from the president of the united states that does not constitute a quid pro quo. again, you have to look at it in context. go bac...

Investigation process with the assumption that congress has already gone through a full investigation. they are in that impeachment inquiry, number one. number two, i think you're missing the idea of context about presidential leverage and why it very different for a civilian to talk about a dinner chat as opposed to somebody with an earmarked over a quarter of million ksh. >> -- excuse me. i do find it odd you would demand people would respect your opinion and time and then you interject when i'm making a point about 1.5 sentences in. the reason it's important not to conflate is because it's ...