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It makes sense to mix vaccines in terms of protection. what's the answer? >> the answer is a little confusing. i think what we're learning over and over is at some point in time you need to get mrna vaccines. that's the best booster. if you got johnson & johnson, i don't think it makes a difference if you get boosted with pfizer or moderna, there's some data that maybe with moderna you get a little higher antibody response, but it's not that significant. at the end of the day, my response is get boosted and get boosted with what's available, either fieszer or moderna. >> take whatever you can ...

South africa, over 500,000 health care workers got immunized with j&j. they're giving a booster dose of j&j to those workers. we'll know more about their level of protection against omicron. the data i'm getting is that health care workers that have one dose of j&j are getting infected, but not getting sick, not endtion up in the hospital, not requiring oxygen when they get hospitalized. they're having very short hospital stays. it looks like even a single dose of j&j is protecting yourself against severe disease from omicron, not protecting you from infection. >> bottom line, get your booster...

No, i don't think we have enough information, but the information is emerging. i think also what's becoming pretty clear is maybe full immunization with these vaccines like the pfizer or moderna ma scene is not two doses, but three doses. rather than calling it a booster, it may be that being fully protected requires three doses. many doses we give at point zero, one month and six months. maybe somewhere between three and six months is the right time to take the third dose. irn readingly the data is pretty clear that the third dose is required to protect against strains like delta and now with...