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Built atop the electoral college. we have these outcomes like ones we've seen in recent elections. the number is something like if you flip 22 or 24,000 votes in a couple of states you could have got an electoral college tie which trump would have won in the house of representatives. so having republican partisan officials running elections where you then have margins that narrow because of the electoral college, not because of the voters is an extraordinary vulnerability in our system. >> yeah, and gene, halfway to the electoral college tie would be picking up georgia and arizona and then tru...

Country. you write a little report in effect saying we didn't see any. if they ever told you five weeks after we leave we're going to have this other meeting, you know, called an electoral college, we can't sign anything. this is outrageously anti-democratic. >> yeah, i watched the elections in argentina shortly after argentina returned to democracy, brazil, and peru, and i saw irregulari irregularities. i didn't see anything as weird and as just flat out undemocratic, unrepresentative as the electoral college full stop. i just didn't, and actually, i have faith that in the elections that i di...

And i think, you know, it's going to be really ugly treasure. when you think about the business irregularities, the charitable organization irregulari irregularities, i'm being generous when i use that word. you know, michael cohen quite literally knows where the bodies are buried because for a decade, he's been traipsing around the woods with a shovel looking for soft ground for donald trump. perhaps not literally, but so, i think it's of interest. >> i talked about known unknowns. that's probably a known unknown. >> exactly, nicolle. it's of interest, okay. what sort of seeped into the presi...

Expanding educational, vocational, technical opportunities. that's huge. because not everybody is college material. not everybody should run to a four-year college and be faced with a mountain of debt and very few job prospects. get a skillss certificate in hih school, become a welder an pl e carpenter and you'll have jobs waiting for you in this country. >> two issues, there's the general problem, if there is one, and there's always some irregulari irregularities. we hear about irregularities once in a while. this idea of 3 million to 5 million in this country illegally voting, there's 11 mil...

Employers? are they just meant to sign up for e-verify, enroll in that program and wash their hands clean of never having to verify people's credentials or pay what's fair and let that american worker compete for those jobs? the other thing i just want to throw in there, because you and i would relate to this given our backgrounds, this president also has committed himself to expanding educational, vocational, technical opportunities. that's huge. because not everybody is college material. not everybody should run to a four-year college and be faced with a mountain of debt and very few job pro...