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Moreover, what we've just learned is those cell phones according to police never left a one-third of a mile radius around the irwin home. we need to learn more about the context for that, and i want to bring john back. my apologies to him, something happened with the feed, but we'll get him back on, and we thank him for coming on with this important information. well, coming up, herman cain taking a hit at the polls as the presidential candidate gets tried in the court of public opinion. is he still a top contender? we'll ask tony perkins, one of the country's top family values conservatives w...

If something was searched? >> no, that wasn't discussed when we were there. we actually saw the phone records, we saw the ping records as well. and that part was not discussed. megyn: and the ping records, where do they show -- how far away from the home did the cell phones get? >> anywhere from one-fifth of a mile up to one-third of a mile in a sort of a, if you can visualize the baseball field, from their house. and that's in the wooded area behind their house all the way down to the banks of of the missouri river. megyn: so the cell phones never got more than a third of a mile away from the...

Megyn: well, we believe we have the attorney back, john picerno. can you hear me? >> >> i can, megyn. thank you. megyn: all right. my apologies. i though you believe this information could support the theory that this homeless guy, jersey, who's in custody on other charges, could be the man who possibly took this baby, perhaps breaking into the house, trying to make a call at 11:57 and trying to access the voicemail at 3:17 and 3:22. if phones never got more than one-third of a mile radius away from the irwin home, does that suggest to you -- and if it was jersey calling the voicemail at 3:30 ...

The sightings were between 12:15 and 4:00 a.m. could this baby be lisa irwin? also, in surveillance video from that night a lone figure can be seen walking out of a wooded area nearby. and another mysterious twist. this interview two weeks ago. deborah said police asked her about some burned clothing. >> during an interrogation they said we burned clothes. >> why? a.b. hour and a half' jeremy irwin called 911 the fire department responded to a fire in a dumpster near the irwin home. that is the same time one made a call from irwin's missing cell phone. >> we located the dump store where the fi...

The sightings were between 12:15 and 4:00 a.m. could this baby be lisa irwin? also, in surveillance video from that night a lone figure can be seen walking out of a wooded area nearby. and another mysterious twist. this interview two weeks ago. deborah said police asked her about some burned clothing. >> during an interrogation they said we burned clothes. >> why? a.b. hour and a half' jeremy irwin called 911 the fire department responded to a fire in a dumpster near the irwin home. that is the same time one made a call from irwin's missing cell phone. >> we located the dump store where the fi...