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This happen? they went back -- >> what was that in 2008? >> that's the point. >> who made the phone calls. it wasn't the trump administration. this was a long time ago. this was in clinton land. where did this happen? he was friends with clinton. then bush. then you had obama. there were a lot of different administrations that overlap. who made phone calls to whom to get epstein the deal? >> the one in 2008? accost a was asked about this. interestingly. during the transition. is epstein a problem during the confirmation hearing? and batted it awa saying no, no. i had one meeting and i was told...

Trump said, quote, i've known jeff for 15 years. terrific guy. court documents call epstein's ex -- call him extraordinary wealthy and state his potential avenues of flight from justice are practically limitless. forbes says although epstein is extremely wealthy the source of his wealth a money management film in the u.s. virgin islands generates no public records and his client list has never been revealed. >> but what has been made public is epstein's massive real estate empire here in the u.s. and abroad. he owns a $77 million home in manhattan and a $12 million one in florida. according to...

Showed they were credible and the stories were awful. and what happened is congress reacted. ben sasse, the republican from nebraska should get a big shoutout for teaming up with the democrats for saying wait a minute, how did this happen? they went back -- >> where was that back in 2008? >> that's the point. >> who made the phone calls? it wasn't the trump administration. this was a long time ago. this was in clinton land. where did this happen? he was friends with clinton. then you had bush. then you had obama. there were a lot of different administrations that overlap. who made phone calls ...

Trial. he has enormous wealth. the charges are very serious and they carry with them a maximum sentence of 45 years in jail, which to someone of epstein's age is basically a life sentence. so we think he has every incentive to try to flee the jurisdiction. when you have two planes and you live much of the year abroad, you know, we think that's a very real risk. >> is epstein a billionaire? >> no comment. >> you referred to some of them as particularly vulnerable. why is that? >> i can't go into the specifics with respect to any particular victim. >> in the indictment there are three employees,...