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revolutionary. hip-hop is evolutionary. we don't know where it is going. drew music in chicago is actually really gang infested. drugs and violence. the king louiss these titles came out of what they are seeing, what they witnessed. when i went to london for the international peace movement i went by poois. i was on the train and i heard the music. he's listening to chief keith. he said what do you know about it. i said i'm from chicago. it shows you how people in the hoods are connected is. >> when i first started traveling that was the thing most stunning was to stand in a south african club in cape town. what i heard was hip-hop. part of what i would be interested in is maybe i'm in the wrong clubs. are they spinning rock still in global -- >> i think that's a good question. we are talking about country-western, hip-hop, pop.