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Increasingly is some of the more islamist extremist factions fighting and killing more moderate rebels. >> that, it's a problem for the united states. but also the western nations who would like to support the rebels but you have hard core islamists like al qaeda joining the fight against assad in larger and larger number. influence among the rebel is pretty strong. this is nic robertson reporting. >> reporter: the strength of islamist groups simple think theic to al qaeda appears to be growing. a view supported by this former cia officer, who tracked al qaeda in iraq. >> they have found the s...

Cannot communicate. and so i think both jorn ahn an are right in that there is a way that washington tends to react to terror which is what's known and described as a one-way ratchet that kind of prohibits a more complicated discussion of what actually is happening here and you know what does this say about the way in which al qaeda is evolving. >> remember that senators udall and -- so senators that are actually on the intelligence committee have said there are things that -- there's information that we're not getting or that's being given to us that's actually inaccurate compared to what the...

Benghazi on september 11th. their ideology has not been killed by the arab spring but is is alive, that is part of what this is all about. megyn: does it show a level of command and control that we have been led to believe by some al-qaida no longer possesses in >> you can't prove that. none of us are in the room with them while they are taking about these matters. you can deduce based on all these facts and there are a lot of them that al-qaida was involved in four separate instances. megyn: how does it square with what we were told by the u.n. ambassador susan rice, that al-qaida is on its h...