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Washington examiners and it has people upset that jeb bush did not respond to hillary clinton. she laid into him and he went up there and did not respond. according to one, and to some conservatives who questioned jeb bush's resolve to fight bush's silence had an ofminous silence to it. is jeb tough enough is something that he may have to answer. >> yeah, people in the end are going to look for someone optimistic and not angry. he has a challenge on thursday can you take on donald trump without taking down the voters? the interesting thing is that if you look through the groups there's support...

>> it's weird, isn't it? i can see trump having some gravitas but these guys revved themselves up to go after trump and it will be a weird dynamic on stage. i think jeb bush is probably the most to gain from this whole trump phenomenon but he has to look at how he plays it on stage opposite trump. >> there's an important article that i think the jeb bush people are reading by byron work in "the washington examiner" and it has conservatives upset that jeb bush didn't lay into hillary clinton. hillary clinton laid in to jeb bush during the urban league and jeb bush went up there and didn't respo...

When i was involved in politics running for office, helping people like my friend jack kemp run for president in 1988, a big part of our strategy was how do you get to independent voters, swing voters people in the middle. now it's how do you turn out more and more of your base, which increasingly is further to the left for the democratic party and further to the right for the republican party. you need to make clear that there's a big bloc of voters somewhere else, partially because they might succeed but mainly, through my standpoint, so the republicans and democrats will have an interest in...

Herbert walker bush the election. >> a lot of people in my party have told me that. >> is jeb upset with you. >> he's never said anything to me about it we want to resolve this before we get so far into the process that the candidates weigh is this good for me or bad for me. second of all, social science done since 1992 kind of disputes the notion that perot cost bush the election. think you have to say that's not necessarily the case. >> in the introduction i mentioned that marco rubio now leading jeb bush in the polls. does that mean that jeb bush better hurry and get into this thing or he'l...

♪ is jeb about to jump. the former florida governor says he is, quote, actively exploring the possibility of running for president of the united states. my god what does that mean? if bush is in are christie fans stressing out. billionaire big christie backer ken langown, are you going to turn your back on the governor? >> absolutely not. i think this is very healthy. in fact, he's going to actively explore. what's he been doing the last six months. >> what does that mean? >> i don't know. >> i think it means the money guys, keep it dry, don't go running to christie, romney, save it for me...