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Rules. especially those of us like john and me and chris who follow trump in new york for a long time. then you have the government. which people expect to run differently. there has been a huge problem in the white house. not uniformly. not everybody. a lot of really good people working there who try hard to end up getting swept in under a giant rug. people all act as if all is well. just because there is one person there they don't speak for the administration or you can ignore that person. this is just how the president is. you just can't say that over and over again. the world doesn't nece...

There had been a democrat. they didn't have a long list of people and they had similar problems. seemed as if it was a little haphazard. they came from a small state so they didn't have a long infrastructure the way george w. bush, large state, had a large infrastructure. some of that is what trump is running into, don't you think? >> some of this is just the normal transition process, but a lot of it isn't. you know, i was part of the transition in 2008. we happened to be in the middle of an economic crisis. i was on the economic team. and we started meeting with the relevant agency heads and...