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now on bbc news, it's hardtalk with stephen sackur. welcome to hardtalk. i'm stephen sackur. there are some human experiences which most of us find very hard to get our heads around. my guest today experienced the unimaginable torment of more than four decades in solitary confinement in a tiny cell in one of america's most notorious prisons. albert woodfox was the victim of ingrained racism and brutality inside america's system of criminaljustice. he is now a free man. but what does freedom really mean after everything he has been through? albert woodfox, welcome to hardtalk. thank y...

a tiny cell in one of america's most notorious prisons. albert woodfox was the victim of ingrained racism and brutality inside america's system of criminaljustice. he is now a free man. but what does freedom really mean after everything he has been through? albert woodfox, welcome to hardtalk. thank you. here you are, in london as a free man. but given everything you have been through, is it possible for you to ever feel truly free? yeah, i mean philosophically, mentally and emotionally i was free long before my physical freedom. my physicalfreedom. and so my physical freedom. and so...

Of the united states. racism was blatant, the opportunities from economic to political to social were almost non—existent. and if you are denied access to society, if you are denied opportunities and stuff, the instinct to survive is probably the strongest instinct we have. so it was almost predestined that i would turn to petty crime to survive. if i may, i'd like to read to you a little passage from your extraordinarily frank and honest book, solitary, where you talk about being a youth growing up. "i robbed people, iscared them, i threatened them, "i intimidated them. "i stole from people...