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It is an ongoing conversation, but if we were having the conversation in 1988 about ron reagan. there were people criticizing him in 1988 for being too soft in gore about chov. there are going to be a lot of things that play out that will shape president obama's legacy. what happens in me zulle. the isis, isil problem. it look like president-elect donald trump doesn't agree with the congressional leadership about what americans deserve to have. he is talking about people with preexisting conditions still being able to be insured.

Legacy is. >> you can't believe we're talking about it this early. >> i can't, but it's okay. it's an ongoing conversation, but if we were having a conversation in 1988 about ronald reagan, there were people criticizing ronald reagan in 1988 for being too soft on gorbachev and if gorbachev had been overthrown in '89 rather than 1991, who knows what outcome would have been and ronald reagan's legacy as the one who won the cold war wouldn't have been the legacy of the man who won the cold war. there are a number of things to play out for barack obama that are going to shape his legacy. for examp...

National security. >> and here's what the president said about establishing a no-fly zone in syria, a position advocated by hillary clinton, jeb bush, chris christie, john kasich, marco rubio. >> the other new thing that people have suggested would be some variation of a no-fly zone or a safe zone. this is something we've been talking about for three or four years. the challenge there is that isil doesn't have an air force so the damage done there is not against isil, it's against the syrian regime. creating a safe zone for syrian refugees, we've tested. we've looked at repeatedly. the problem...

Doesn't spill any further over into jordan or into other places southern turkey or other neighboring countries. try and contain it and try and work with those in the neighborhood to see the extent to which we could work together to extinguish this conflagration of extremism in the region. other than that there isn't a whole lot we can do. the government in baghdad is shia dominated. they send their militias out. they kill sunni on the ground as well as the sunni extremists. there's no love lost between them. in addition to having this isil problem, you've got a civil war that is bubbling away ...