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So now there's this question of what this does to isis' whole propaganda message, right? people are angry when they're asked to sacrifice a lot on your promises. but one thing when you're promising them jobs or election win or the return you get in a ponzi scheme. another thing if you literally promise them the world, the end of the world and you go to the good place and everybody else burns, if that's what you're promising and then you can't deliver? if this were not election season in the united states, biggest story in this country right now would be what's happening to isis. the biggest ci...

Still going to happen, they're still promising it will kick off the end of the world when that battle happens but this just wasn't it yet. hmm, minor setback, but we promise dabiq will still be really important some day. so now there's this question of what this does to isis' whole propaganda message, right? people are angry when they're asked to sacrifice a lot on your promises. but one thing when you're promising them jobs or election win or the return you get in a ponzi scheme. another thing if you literally promise them the world, the end of the world and you go to the good place and every...

Wasn't it yet. hmm, minor setback, but we promise dabiq will still be really important some day. so now there's this question of what this does to isis' whole propaganda message, right? people are angry when they're asked to sacrifice a lot on your promises. but one thing when you're promising them jobs or election win or the return you get in a ponzi scheme. another thing if you literally promise them the world, the end of the world and you go to the good place and everybody else burns, if that's what you're promising and then you can't deliv deliver? if this were not election season in the u...

Be the path to isis becoming extinct. >> certainly from a strategic point of view, it is important. because it is the commanding city in northern iraq. the second largest in the country. it's near the syrian border. it's near the turkish border. it is iraq's most ethnically diverse city. symbolically, of course, it is the largest city that isis controls. it has a population -- or had a population in better times of up to about 2 million. now, however, many people have fled. what remains is somewhere between 700,000 and 1 million civilians there. it was there on the 29th of june, 2014, where th...

Police when i was in iraq. i'm sure that's still the case, especially in ramadi where a lot of policemen were killed in the initial doonslaught of isis. not only police to provide security but turning on electricity, water, getting the government working again. they're ready to do that but it's still going to take a little bit of time. >> i wonder if that will change from americans think about this. look at this poll obviously taken before this, 18% of americans say we are winning the war on terrorism. is there any truth to that? is perception reality here? >> i think perception is accurate in...