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Esteban santiago. and people have been reading into his finger and that. art what does this say to you if anything? >> could be some peripheral involvement here with terrorist group. it's hard to say right now. but definitely iekological issues. and psychological issues and terrorist acts not mutually exclusive. we tend to put something in a particular bucket to label it. this is this. but one is not mutually exclusive of the other. i think we'll find terrorism was peripheral issue but this individual this psychological issues. >> we tend to think of isis directed, something like paris, isis p...

To be in some way unislamic. i thiake the claim of responsibility at face value, the kurdish terrorists don't attack nightclubs where there are many civilians including turks. so the choice of target and isis claiming responsibility mean that it is slightly, if not isis directed, at least isis inspired. >> there have been so many terrorist attacks within turkey in the past several months, phil. isis has claimed responsibility. other terror groups have claimed responsibility. other rebel groups have claimed responsibility. what is happening inside turkey? >> i think there's a couple things happ...

Latest information? >> well, it all fits in with i think what most people's expectations were given that a lot of the tactics, techniques, procedures that we see in this attack mimic a couple of other ones. in fact, there have now been three attacks the islamic state has claimed credit for using its channels, propaganda channels online, involving vehicles. just given the initial reports on this, it certainly seems to be a jihadist attack, probably isis inspired, if not isis directed, and so this is all fitting in with what expectations were, i think. and now it's just a question of how quickly...

Doing more, we should be helping. yes, we should have five years ago whenever the civil war started in syria. we should have never withdrawn our troops so quickly out of iraq which led to isis taking over. what's really important, i think, about this attack in germany. isis inspired, is this radical or isis directed? if it's isis directed, that means the gains we tried to make in iraq in syria against them are not as significant as we thought. >> the thing is, they were giving three, four years to plot and plan. they've provided the since separati inspiration. we've let them go into iraq. took...

Of new jersey, a former chairman of the senate foreign relations committee. senator, thank you very much for joining us. i want to get to all of these issues. very quickly, the fbi is saying that they are missing 18 minutes of the terrorist movements in san bernardino. they are working on the assumption that this was isis-inspired, not isis-directed. what are you hearing? >> i don't know much more, wolf, than what you've reported. they are trying to figure out what those 18 minutes represent in terms of movements. and i believe that in time they will, with the help of the community at large, h...