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Which is it? what do you make of the messages? >> it's very confusing. it's very confusing not only for all of us who know a bit about isis, but even for the american public. remember, if there's one particular audience that president trump cares about, it is really the domestic audience, his base. he will say whatever it takes to satisfy the political base. this is what matters to him. the physical, territoryial state is almost dismand led, almost. they are still fighting in syria. i argue that isis already shifted into the second phase, which is insurgency. few americans know that isis, now,...

Because i know, if nobody's watching. >> your mom is watching. >> she is. she's is it only person in the world i know that is always going to be there. >> to see our full conversation, make sure you tune in "red table talk" on facebook. watch this monday, 12:00, eastern. thanks for watching. our coverage continues. a hearing democrats spar with president trump's acting attorney general over the mueller probe and the conversation with the president. virginia's lieutenant governor faces impeachment after a second woman comes forward accusing him of sexual assault. president trump will declar...

End of america's fight against terror. it is clear on syria's front line the battle against isis as a territoryial entity is down, but the war on isis is far from over. >> reporter: fighters are loading up for the final battle against what's left of this so-called islamic state. now, holed up in a tiny corner of land in eastern syria. with coalition air support, the u.s. backed syrian democratic forces have driven isis out of all but a sliver of territory along the euphrates river. it's easy to see plenty of movement inside the enclave a half mile away, as gunfire echoes across no man's land.

Face, president barack obama failed to defeat isis, i did it. isis is not defeated. american generals, everyone in the civilian, basically community, myself included. i have written a book on isis two years ago. i know not only isis is not defeated, you have between 30 and 40,000 al qaeda affiliates in syria. american generals estimate there are 50,000 isis in iraq, not to mention the sign up in egypt, yemen, africa and other places. we have to show humility and say, yes, the military aspect of the fight is very important, but we need to make strategic investment. the post par reconstruction, ...

Isis believe there are thousands of active combaters, isis combaters even though the physic physic physical territorial states. the fact i would argue is the next phase, the next phase of the fight against isis is as difficult as the dismantling of the caliphate. it is dynamic, adaptive and will most likely go under ground and buy its time and basically, recover in the next three years, unless the real fight, which is not military, basically both in iraq and syria takes place. >> absolutely. we know that they have spread to africa and are working there to train more people in northern