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Goes to work in the same place that another human being, john boehner goes to work. walk us through, if you can, why does he sometimes break these rules and basically let things go to the floor? you mentioned the budget, where he did that, and we're seeing it on the debt ceiling, right, where, obviously, republicans made a lot of noise. but at the end of the day, this thing they said we need a majority of the majority, didn't turn out to be true. did you know from working with him why sometimes he does let things go to the floor and whether that creates a path for other priorities? >> he's got...

For his conference. and so but let's now focus on immigration reform. he made the statement beforehand that he's not going to put up a bill for immigration reform. if, in fact, you really want to do something and move forward and not just play little games here, then let's put immigration reform, because that's important for america to get done, and i think that's something we'd be able to pass. >> he's got folks in his caucus who say they want to do something on it, but they are not doing the opportunity. the unfolding crisis in syria, a huge problem, as you know. take a look at a video that ...

I think, are starting to realize that there's a conversation to happen here, and i think there's a lot of work that needs to be done to kind of make up those numbers and people's awareness of what's really happening. >> it's a two-front war. one, is there a problem, and if there's a problem, there's a legitimate policy debate about what to do about it. should you get into should your car be small, should you drive less, or should power plants, should they basically do less or be more safe, whatever you want to call it, people in america are not down with that. look at this usa today poll that ...

Sort of where we are and what kind of a place we're going to live in, and droughts and water and all these issues are national security threats. i think using more analogy is not necessary in conveying it's a national security threat, and i think you're right, it is something people have become very comfortable with. i don't think people who are aware of climate change and global warming need the weapon of mass destruction to get it. i think that it's obvious to them. kerry's speaking to an audience overseas and maybe that's helpful. here at home, using a weapon of mass destruction is now an a...

Their mind by blackness. >> and i want to play something from the victim's father, jordan davis's father and get your thoughts afterwards. let's listen. >> there's a lot of good kids out there, a lot of good nephews, a lot of good grandsons, granddaughters, nieces, they should have a voice, they shouldn't worry about if someone has a problem with somebody else, that if they get shot, it's just collateral damage. there's no such thing to parents that their child suffered collateral damage. >> lisa, very briefly, where do we go from here? >> you know, jordan davis's parents have spoken with such...