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Said that might be think twice about your life and family but because they're so zealous about what they might think the evidence requires for the right result. >> yeah, look, i think there are two things at play here. yes, i think that's obviously right that they wolf to involve yourself in this case it's because you believe donald trump has committed a crime and you want to see the right result done for the american people. and prosecutors will -- look, let's be honest, they'll make a decision about whether to indict on this case based on the facts of this case. but let's not pretend that pr...

Interview, there are people in these cases that they do love that they can be a bit of adrenaline junkies. this is a big case. for someone like mark pomeranz who's had a brilliant career in the legal world, this is obviously a career capper if you bring this case and win it. >> depending on where they go, this could be the biggest case in american history, literally. we're almost out of time, matt. when the zoom era finally ends and you do rejoin us in physical studios as we hope you do, will you be able to adjust to our newsroom studios, which are not nearly as nice or impressive as your law ...

You believe the defendant is guilty, there may be some problems with the evidence but you're going to go trial and see what happens. this is one that if you're going to put your office through the real hell that it will be to bring this case against donald trump, you want to make sure it's bulletproof. i think by bringing those two prosecutors onboard, two veteran prosecutors, they're not just trying to build -- to make sure it's as strong an investigation as possible, but to tell cy vance before he makes a decision to seek an indictment this is a case that you can win. >> fascinating. one of ...

Doesn't he? come on, bruno. >> now, this ain't a movie. here's what's key about the actual case. pomeranz appealed the real world situation, the client's conviction there, and forced courts to effectively change the legal definition of racketeering, which had been used to prosecute organized crime figures. now, pomeranz has defended some of new york's highest profile defendants. he knows exactly how it looks on both sides of the table, which means he may have some idea of the kind of hard ball, tough defenses that a trump organization might try to bring out if they do face indictments this yea...

Trump organization. you take it together and see what the d.a. has his eye on. two heavyweight lawyers working on the trump organization criminal probe. one, an expert in organized crime, how the mafia rolls. the other an expert in financial crime, what people do in those secret board rooms to steal money which affects everyone but you might never hear about it. and most importantly to the d.a. and most concerningly for the trump organization these aren't just experts. they have a track record of winning, even tough cases against very tough defendants. i want to say what i've told you before b...