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class. it seems demented but what we know about economics. if brian is a professor of busis and economics, let's address the cost. she proposes spending more on this health care plan within the entire federal budget. >> it's not 52 trillion, we keep talking about this number like it's gospel -- it's not. it's going to be closer to 60 trillion if anything like this ever comes to be because she's slashing pay for doctors, she is slashing their pay but saying they will still be there, they will serve you and provide health care -- no they won't. it's going to take way more than $60 trillion to get this done. let's be clear about what is gospel and what is not. >> you would need to force doctors to provide care. >> if you aren't going to pay them, how mostly get them to the table? this isn't about money, it's about power. $52 trillion, $60 trillion is the power grab she is trying to
magnitsky act -- >> well said. >> which is supposed to police this kind of thing. and what that act basically says is you can't traipse around the world committing human rights violations and then open a checking account at chase. it's what we do to bond villians to keep thum from having their money in the united states without being personally being able to sanction them, right? now, that is triggered by the senate basically saying, hey, we think some human rights violations have happened, we should investigate it. so that's what bob corking did or lindsey graham and whatever democrats wanted to play along, they triggered an act of investigation under the global m magnitsky act. that makes the president have 120 days to figure out yes, and
bridges which the republicans in the senate will have no interest doing. you're going to see trump again trying to triangulate. >> what can he do with that amount of money. 802,000 people gave him money. he said he did know take money from corporations or pacts. >> i also think in therathe fact he's earned so wrumuch i think something that can unify people. every time the e-mail went out, look how much we've raised and we didn't take money from big corporate donors, these were all small donor donations, and i think that sort of encouraged people to come out and it sort of made him popular -- i know. but it mattered. if we are talking about energy, emotion, if we are talking about getting people to the polls, that does matter.
the money does matter in the sense of look how much i've raised. obviously what i'm saying resonates with people, and i think that's a message you can take somewhere. >> obviously what the general democrat party is saying is not resonating with people. there's a reason why beto o'rourke is blowing other people away. there was a "new york times" article that beto a rauo'rourkes to share his money. what democrats need to learn -- >> be simple. >> i'm going to fight somebody with words. what the democrats need to learn from o'rourke and from sanders is that standing up for your principles actually matters and smo motivates people. >> beyond motivation, where does it reside in the real world ultimately? >> money gets you in the game.
>> welcome back to "up." that of course was beto o'rourke, the three time congressman from el paso, texas. currently returning against incumbent republican ted cruz. congressman o'rourke is becoming a household name. he is also becoming a prolific record breaking fund-raiser. in the last quarter alone he raised more than $38 million, and for some perspective that is more money than former florida governor jeb bush raised in his entirety of his presidential campaign. i'd like to welcome back my panel. tim, let me go to you first here. there is some disparity between the money he's raking in, way more than ted cruz has. and yet you look at the most recent polling, ted cruz 51 ers, beto a rauo'rourke, 43 merse. why isn't it translating and what's it going to take to
want today make it through saudi arabia and israel. >> you had senator marco rubio on one of the sunday shows today saying steven mnuchin the secretary needs to pull out -- the treasury secretary has not at this point. do you see a reckoning of a change to that? you had senator bob corking singing a different tune about the saudis this week. >> no. we're dealing with the most corrupt administration in the history of the country. that's not going to change, right? they're corrupt. that's what corrupt people do. there are a lot of people being oh, trump's being blackmailed. no, he's just making money there. and we already know his people do not care he's the most corrupt president in american history. what will be interesting to see if the law has anything to say about it. right, so we have the global g
he should be spending a vast majority of money. who am i to tell beto o'rourke how he should be spending his money. he's down 7 or 9 percentage points -- well, nobody likes ted cruz, nobody really likes him. >> but texas does. >> but a lot of people in texas support him. and this matters in texas a great deal. beto o'rourke, you know, maybe he should take all that money right now and said you know what, i'm not going to win the senate, maybe i should take this money to the white house. >> i'm going to read a statement here from a senior senator from texas, that is john cornyn. he said that's a lot of money, but i don't think all the money in the world is not going to help beto at this point because he is a self-identified national
father's real estate he wanted to move to hollywood and be a movie producer. i think he writes scripts in his head about who he is. and it's one of the reasons he's a survivor. when things turn against him he either lies or just creates an alternative reality that allows him to move through situations. all he really will care about day to day is being talked about. quick programming note for you and 5:00 p.m. eastern time on saturdays and sundays right here on msnbc. and up next we're going to follow the money. how the disappearance of jamal khashoggi is now putting the spotlight on the president's financial time tuesday the kingdom of saudi arabia. financial time tuesday the kingdom of saudi arabia. cours-- ever since i started renting from national. because national lets me lose the wait at the counter... ...and choose any car in the aisle. and i don't wait when i return, thanks to drop & go. at national, i can lose the wait...and keep it off.
translate? >> it cleary only isn't about money. money signifies activation around people's passions about what's going on in the country right now. but the machinery of getting people elected and bringing people out for votes isn't always about money. i think one of the things democrats are going to have to get used to, it would appear is that the senate and trump are in lock step now. mcconnell and trump used to be at different places in the world. they came together very closely on kavanaugh. i think they're going to continue together. and i don't know that the senate is going to have a happy result for people that are democrats, for democratic voters. i think the house is going to be another thing. so what does that mean for the dust settles and the money is off the table for a period, i think you're going to have to see trump try to live with a democratic hu democratic house. and trump will try to pander. let's do infrastructure spending, let's do roads and
another way we have your back. ♪ ♪ the powerful backing of american express. don't do business without it. so for my business i have been completely self-funded. so is i'm trying to figure out what is the deciding factor in whether to bring in a group of investors to help me grow my business ten-fold, or do i just keep growing at a slower pace? >> so when you think about fund-raising, i got a good piece of advice from a friend of mine who is a venture capitalist, beth ferrera. she said it isn't about money. it is about power. when you raise money, you partner and you have in else accepts a box.