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Strong statement defending rob because i made no type of physical abuse. i can barely contain my indignation. in fact, she described a violent encounter that occurred when she decided to take a shower and rob porter dragged her out of that story by her shoulders. john kelly didn't think that was serious abuse. john kelly didn't think it was serious when jenny willoughby obtained a protective order. after those facts became known, john kelly said this about rob porter. rob porter is a man of true integrity and honor, and i can't say enough good things about him.

The white house after everything that jenny willoughby had to say about them. but the black eye photograph of rob porter's first wife was something that john kelly couldn't dismiss as just, quote, some level of emotional abuse. as if emotional abuse isn't abuse. as if a wife living in constant fear is just one of the possible conditions of marriage. it seems john kelly is living in constant fear now of being asked, what did he know about rob porter and exactly when did he know it? that is what congressman trey grow dy asked john kelly in a letter last month. writing in a letter from his job, h...

Something that john kelly couldn't dismiss as just, quote, some level of emotional abuse. as if emotional abuse isn't abuse. as if a wife living in constant fear is just one of the possible conditions of marriage. it seems john kelly is living in constant fear now of being asked, what did he know about rob porter and exactly when did he know it? that is what congressman trey grow dy asked john kelly in a letter last month.

Encounter that occurred when she decided to take a shower and rob porter dragged her out of that story by her shoulders. john kelly didn't think that was serious abuse. john kelly didn't think it was serious when john bermenny will obtained a protective order. after those facts became known, john kelly said this about rob porter. rob porter is a man of true integrity and honor, and i can't say enough good things about him. he is a friend, a confidant and a trusted professional. i am proud to serve alongside him. john kelly said all of that after jenny willoughby told her story of the marriage ...

Oak tree. >> listen to what the founding father said. >> he said i cannot imagine a more indiscriminate -- >> do you realize we're not living in our refuvolutionary past. >> retention on personal data on virtually every citizen. >> don't put government in a position to abuse authority, and they are in that position, are they not? >> that's what's kept us strong as a country for over 200 years. i can the founding fathers would be astounded to see what nsa and others are doing. joining us now is michael leiter of the national counterterrorism center under president bush and obama. michael, tak...