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Trump's church, and you know, people like ted cruz and josh hawley are kind of waiting for the moment when they get to use the levers of that movement, and so just -- even if donald trump isn't around, we're not done with this threat to our democracy. >> we're not. congressman jim himes, thank you so much. it's good to see you. thanks for the time here on a saturday. protecting voter rights as republican-led states try to change the rules of the game. to the new steps promised by attorney general merrick garland go far enough? i'm going to ask reverend al sharpton that question next. rel sha...

And i believe they are working it out where she will come. i would love to her. great news, it wouldn't even be necessary, but at this point, it slooking like, it is looking like he perhaps won't be, or isn't around, and that is very sad. i think we would have known by now. that was our first hope. our first hope was that he was not killed. but maybe that is not looking, is not looking too good. from what we are hearing. >> a lot still to learn, mr. president. >> a lot to learn. there really is. >> and others in prison in turkey, others -- >> as you speak, we are working on that. and by the wa...

>> i think it's moving toward a month long kick the can down the road. they're going to take the daca deal out of the negotiations right now, they'll do a month long continuing resolution to keep the government open, and have this fight later. democrats think it's in their interest to have the fight closer to the deadline for all daca recipients for the whole program to be shut down. and i think there's also some democrats from purple states, from red states who don't want to have this fight right now. that's our best guess right now. there will be a resolution to this before friday. if the la...

The democrats. where do you view this shutdown versus a month long kick the can down the road. >> i think it's moving toward a month long kick the can down the road. they're going to take the daca deal out of the negotiations right now, they'll do a month long continuing resolution to keep the government open, and have this fight later. democrats think it's in their interest to have the fight closer to the deadline for all daca recipients for the whole program to be shut down. and i think there's also some democrats from purple states, from red states who don't want to have this fight right no...

>> john archibald, i'm sorry. this is the funniest thing i ever heard. maybe because i live in the northeast, i live in a diverse society. i don't know how who your lawyer is tells you what your attitudes are. what did you make of that? all three of you comment on what you thought of that comment. >> you can't make this stuff up. you know, we've lived here in alabama, covered roy moore for a long time, so we've heard a lot of crazy stuff come out of his mouth. to hear it dribble out like this is kind of a wakeup call to all of us. but it's amazing. >> what do you make of it, onnie? your though...