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With politically with really eccentric folks like neo-y is significancist, people who don't support civil rights, people who think the south was right in the civil war. >> you guys are -- you guys are getting way into the weeds here. but when you're running for president, if she does run, isn't everything fair game? everyone who you've been in business with, your spouse. everything is fair game, no? >> nonsense, nonsense. >> why? >> it was fair game for barack obama, for bill clinton, for george w. bush, for -- no? >> hell, no. there ought to be some honor in this life of politics and i've bee...

Gdp now but gdp in the future, well being in the future, and gdp isn't everything. but thelt and other desirable outcomes for the society will lose out. all of these will lose out if we don't say that we're going to contribute at some point. for me it is an investment question. are you going to do it now or are you going to do it later? >>. >> this is where we have to talk about race. if we recognize that we're an us, then it doesn't matter that eight, you know, that half of all 18-year-olds and under are black, latino, asian, native american, right? so when one of the things that we're seeing...

You heard about this, right? >> yes, yes. we talked about it on this show. >> his manager said that he cannot prove that he had a medical condition. but isn't everything a medical condition these days. you don't have to prove it, do you? >> i don't care if it is a medical condition, but it is worth reprimanding. where i work at the daily caller we had a similar problem. sadly none of us can fire or reprimand tucker carlson. >> you live with it, but here on the "red eye" set we turn on a fan. >> coming up, a tisket and a tasket and green and yellow basket.

These feelings of -- >> that's when those swing states will matter. >> want to bring up something romney said on "meet the press." on this issue of empathy, here's what he said. >> i really think that those re people that try and minimize the feeling and the connection we have with the american people really miss the mark very badly and they're trying to divide americans based on who has money and who was able to achieve success and who does not have as much. >> i was struck -- it was in that answer, also in ann romney's answer, this to me, it's all about ohio. why is ohio -- why are they behi...

States. the big empathy factor. the person you ended up being enthusiastic about was ann romney and she's not running for president. it is her husband. you got a feeling from every single speaker that they understand what has happened to people who are unemployed. >> but empathy isn't everything. >> likability coupled with empathy. >> empathy isn't everything. and this race still is much more about the economy than it is likability. stick around. trivia time. we asked who was the first president to use the oval office that president obama uses today? the answer is fdr. now, in 1909, william ...