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At me in that sort of "will you get on with it" sort of way that families can do. where were you when you were told you had cancer? a similarly sort of surreal experience in a way. i was in a car park in bury north, where i was about to go out knocking on doors for a friend of mine who is a local council candidate. and james frith, who is also a good friend of mine, who was until recently the bury north mp. and i was sat in my car park receiving this phone call from the hospital earlier than i was expecting and having them kind of tapping on the window, saying "we're all here, we're ready to g...

Milburn was health secretary. huge waiting lists. he turned where to get them sorted? to the private sector to help. get them sorted? to the private sector to help-— sector to help. well, it is interesting, _ sector to help. well, it is interesting, isn't - sector to help. well, it is interesting, isn't it, - sector to help. well, it is interesting, isn't it, how| sector to help. well, it is i interesting, isn't it, how we sector to help. well, it is - interesting, isn't it, how we come full circle? conservative governments come in, ratchet up waiting lists, and labour have to sort them out....

That it had been caught early, that i would have an operation and recover, that time off that i had and that reminder of my own mortality made me think very hard about my life and what i want to do. and the way i want to live my life. and how i would feel if i had been given worse news, that's my life would be coming to an end sooner rather than later. and so it made me think a lot about "what is it you want to achieve? how do you want to make the most of your time?" and the reassuring thing is that i didn't kind of think, "well, i've made a terrible mistake with all this politics stuff, i don...

Space. i think that's what we are seeing now play out and come to fruition. if you don't send your kid to school public dislools are laws against that you can be used against to punish you, truancy laws. they make it so have you no choice to send your kids to these public institutions. if you can't afford these other options you are forced to send your kids and you become accustomed to it it becomes regulated towards you, now what we are seeing how much power the government has when they provide you with everything to take everything away. so now that they have taken, special the kids that are...

And if this isn't it, then what is seditious conspiracy. technically it really only requires proving the use of force to -- against the government's authority. so i think technically they have it here and i also think in terms of just the feel that a jury gets from these charges, it feels like an appropriate charge here. >> yeah, absolutely. valid question, what is it if it's not this. barbara mcquade, former u.s. attorney for the eastern district of michigan, barbara, it is always a pleasure to have you here. thank you for joining us. >> thank you. joining us now is congresswoman elaine lur...