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Carpenter and anna navarro. amanda is a former communication director. amanda, you heard what congressman king just said. i know you've heard this before and senator cruz has heard this before. we were at the republican debate. everywhere you go, you could find people in the republican party, people connected with the senate who would bash ted cruz pretty openly. does this bother him? does he care that he's not likable? and couldn't this hurt him eventually? >> well, hey, number one, i respect the congressman's candor. we hear that often from him. we respect it. and that's certainly his right ...

Amanda is a former communication s carpenter. you heard what congressman king just said. i know you've heard this before and senator cruz has heard this before. we were at the republican debate. everywhere you go, you could find people in the republican party, people connected with the senate who would bash ted cruz pretty openly. does this bother him? does he care that he's not likable? and couldn't this hurt him eventually? >> well, hey, number one, i respect the congressman's candor. we hear that from and that's certainly his right to voice that opinion. i don't buy that ted cruz isn't lika...

Has made his entire persona on being the guy that's the obstructionist, who doesn't mind shaking up washington. it gives him the ability to sell himself as the insider/outsider. he has been in government in decades in different roles but he is an outsider from the establishment. there's a lot of anti-establishment people who vote in republican primaries yi places like iowa, south carolina and some of the southern states where he is concentrating. he is very calculating, very smart. he also has spent an enormous amount of time courting the evangelical vote, which i think is paying off big time ...

We have not supported each other intellectually. here's the deal, he ran as the outsider. well, but he was in the state legislature for over 20 years and now he's the incumbent senator. she's the ultimate outsider, but the outsider very effective inside. i've worked very much with her. working with her to create the independent consumer bureau was a highlight for me. and she showed a shrewdness. she was a pragmatic ideologue. and that's the best combination. >> i think she's a fascinating story, and she could've a real serious -- >> and she's very likable. one of the things -- i think you see ...