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Mueller's team has to sort out. what's most important is what mueller and his team are finding out behind closed doors. >> i think the important thing to remember is we are now in a moment where the president has filed sworn written answers to questions, including about russia, when he had dealings with russia. he was obviously lying during the campaign, saying he had no dealings with russia. sometimes during the '16 and apparently even '17, these dealings continued. guiliani is trying to move the conversation to acknowledging as it will come out in these answers there were these conversations...

Of, i know she's not out there in the cold. >> ronnie gaskins had a confession from rachel and she had led him to a body. but it wasn't enough. >> why wouldn't you arrest somebody right away who confessed to killing somebody? >> she lied to us a number of times before. who's to say she isn't lying before? we had to corroborate her statement. >> once more, gaskins needed rachel so he didn't arrest her. instead, he was about to use rachel to get sheila. coming up, grieving or pretending? >> sheila seemed like she was so upset to have lost her best friend. she even asked me how could someone do...

Hoodlum could have come from, my client didn't send somebody to terrorize herself. why would the magazine do that? doesn't ma i can any sense. mr. cohen and mr. trump and their camp. common sense tells us that's where it had to come from. >> let me go back to the defamation case. what is your proof to prove your client isn't lying about a sexual relationship with the president? >> we have my client's testimony and other documentary evidence we are going to bring to light -- you're going to ask what documents or evidence -- >> you tweeted a picture of a cd. we went round and round about whether...

He says, this is in part, truth be told, the inses isn't lying and the apparatus he has built many the white house means that nothing they say is to be believed anyway. but this of a different nature. this says to america, i'm going to tell you a lie that is so outrageous that you will want to believe that some part of it is true to preserve your faith in truth, democracy and man kind. what do you think of that? >> striking, isn't it? listen, don, we've had examples of presidents lying to the public on a consistent basis now for at least a generation. lynn don johnson lied to us about the viet...

Because the wall is a fraction of that. right there. >> sean: so why are some people saying oh, now he is asking for appropriation? that is what he said. >> that is always what you promised. you know who heard him loud and clearly? the american people. the full intent and plan is to then have mexico reimburse us for it. this is the way the appropriations process goes. anyone who says anything differently isn't lying and is doing so for political reasons. i know firsthand that building the wall is part of some of his initial urgent propositions in his first weeks and months on the job. he ran o...