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Sense this is an effort to tarnish baker's credibility? >> i'll give you two names, jim jordan and mark meadows are the ones who released the names. you know, the house freedom caucus, they are now in the minority. they are huge defenders of trump and anti-mueller. so this does look like it is a way to expose jim baker. there may very well be a legitimate investigation. he's not been from -- he hasn't been indicted. so it might just mean investigation based on concerns that he did have access to a lot of this information, and then a lot of this information became public. but i -- this is reall...

Ones who released the names. you know, the house freedom caucus, they are now in the minority. they are huge defenders of trump and anti-mueller. so this does look like it is a way to expose jim baker. there may very well be a legitimate investigation. he's not been from -- he hasn't been indicted. so it might just mean investigation based on concerns that he did have access to a lot of this information, and then a lot of this information became public. but i -- this is really hard stuff right now because there are people in power, and then also people who leave power who know things that real...