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Scales may have finally fallen from the eyes of people like mike pence and other close trump allies it ultimately doesn't mean much if the party itself is still toeing that trump line. we now have a political party in this country that is willing to subject itself to the whims of a wannabe autocrat, a single unitary leader, willing to whitewash political violence, ban books in schools across the country, change the rules in our elections so that they're never out of power again. folks, this isn't normal. every week, on this show, we tell you a new threshold that has been crossed. and with ever...

Folks, this isn't normal. every week, on this show, we tell you a new threshold that has been crossed. and with every week that goes by, it becomes more and more clear how far into dangerous waters this country may genuinely never recover from. that's where we're going, unchartered territory. there's a word for what path we are on. if nothing changes, we are heading towards fascism, and it should scare the hell out of all of us. joining me now is philip bump, a national correspondent for the "washington post." phillip, great to have you back on the show with us. another week, we learned more t...

The kind of hate you couldn't find in print media or broadcast. that seems to me to be a big part of the problem. >> you say it isn't normal. i'm struck by the fact i've spoken to you in the last year or two. you keep having to come back to talk about this. if it's not normal yet you keep coming back, what do you need to do? >> we need people in public spaces to speak out. but also ordinary citizens need to stand up and say we won't tolerate intolerance. because you're right, john. when we see hate being normalized, all of us lose. >> just one more question. i think it's important. the hasidic...

Sure bail is the most important thing. but if you brutalize a person because of the way they pray, if you attack an individual because of where they're from, that should not be something where you're immediately getting released without bail. >> i want to ask about this case in particular, the suspect here you heard people close to him in that case claiming a mental illness. we have a lot to learn here and it will all come out, but i do think it's important to note just because there is mental illness doesn't mean there can't be a tie to anti-semitism. couldn't the mentally ill be vulnerable t...

To make based often under oath testimony. so maybe one of them is lying. either intentionally or unintentionally, but they're just isn't enough information beyond just your gut instinct of who's telling the truth. which is such an unfortunate thing for this process. i think we have to say this is not normal. this is the new normal, but it isn't normal. it's really a shame that no one was behaving themselves. there were pockets of democrats being adults. >> it's not good for the country. >> it's terrible for the country. >> it was terrible for the country. and the reason there is no fbi investi...