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So they can deny to trump and anybody in the administration all they want. but here's what gets me. a polygraph. imagine putting a polygraph on the person they won't even allow to go speak to robert mueller without having scripted questions. put a polygraph on that guy and see what happens. >> they're not going to do that because he's the president. but you would think that they would want to tamp this down if it's such a nothing-burger to begin with. but, man, are we living through some days. these are the days that people will be writing about in the times of our lives. >> i'm going to pose ...

The op-ped has everyone vexed. hand wringing, who wrote it? everyone has an opinion. however, i argue to you i think we get further toward what matters here by asking the right questions. is it a big shot? if not, doesn't matter who it is except as a measure of whether the "times" did the right thing publishing it anonymously so soon before an election. if it is a big shot, that would show how far the rot has traveled in the white house. leads to a question, why are all these big shots racing to say not me, boss? if the op-ped is so meaningless, why so much adieu about what is billed as nothin...

Somebodies in his administration determine that things have gotten that bad that they want to take this route? >> the self-awareness question, jason. the president is quick to point the finger, but we all know the thing we teach our kids. you point a finger, you've got three pointing back at you and a thumb that's really doing nothing. isn't this a time for reflection? the book comes out. the place leaks like a sieve. people are always saying they question his judgment. now he's got this op-ed penned. isn't it time for him to say, what am i not doing the right way for my own people in the hous...

They change precedent. that's what the supreme court does. you talked about having it both ways with the anonymous op-ed. that's having it both ways too. >> well, the united states supreme court is not supposed to be a little congress. it's not supposed to be politics. the law is not supposed to be politics pursued differently. >> right. >> having said that, there's nothing wrong with a nominee saying, i'm not going to tell you how i'm going to vote, but let me tell you how i analyze a substantive due process case. >> he could have done that. >> now, that's fair. >> it is fair. he just hasn't ...

Know, speak truth to power here. tell me is this true. do you share in this opinion? i've never in my life fired anybody for telling me the truth, and i never will. >> well, we'll see what happens on this one. >> that's the way i approach it. it's worked for me. >> rand paul asking for lie detector tests. the libertarian rand paul wants lie detector tests in the white house to find the leaker. if that is not a metaphor for crazy days, i don't know what is. the president says this is a distraction from the kavanaugh hearing. i will say on the show tonight, and i've said it before, kavanaugh did...