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Now we have flynn named by russian, make russian cyber militias, russian criminal hackers, even russian intelligence hackers. >> this is something we've been talking about. there's so much reporting about the degrees to which there are these russia connections. this simple idea that people thought, oh, we can expose this. maybe we should talk about getting these e-mails. that's a much clearer causal theory than anything on the table previously. >> i completely agree with you. this isn't opaque to me. in the intelligence world, most people, you sometimes wear a uniform. when you look at this, y...

Theory than anything on the table previously. >> i completely agree with you. this isn't opaque to me. in the intelligence world, most people, you sometimes wear a uniform. when you look at this, you will find connections that are not so clear. when it comes to an intelligence operation, there is the mission and then the second part. you want to have this compartmentalization. you want to have this level of nonattribution. what we're seeing is exactly how that works out. you have hackers that could be connected to russia. may not be. the trail on one level, from an evidentiary standpoint, can ...