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To be vietnam was literally laughed aside, was considered not credible. so i think it was very clear they were trying to make, sell this as a nonviolent thing. you know, the time paul was over there, you had the defense secretary here saying, oh, it's just the dead enders. you had cheney saying the dead enders and rumsfeld saying there's not an insurgency. i would want to ask paul, when you're hearing that when you're actually in combat, i mean, if you're paying attention to that stuff, but that was part of selling it, too, we're going to be home by christmas. would any general, or the preside...

Says. but that is a political genuine article. she puts a better show -- that's why she died on fox. that booth she was up in wasilla didn't work on the stage. moving around. obviously a very attractive person. moving around on that stage. look how she dominates that stage. what is that if it isn't p politics? >> she's a great show person. very good speech maker. she wasn't a particularly good governor. she quit mid-term. i think that killed her. she really can't articulate in any convincing way a governing philosophy that works in the future. >> let me ask you, michael, can you squeeze the ju...