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"there's nothing preventing officer pantaleo for moving 20 miles away and taking a job with another police department there." >> richard: that's absolutely true. >> gillian: is there action that can be taken now? are they debating internally whether this is something that can be prevented against? or whether there is some kind of legislation that can rectify this? or is it fair that a police officer has been discharged in one department can move and get a job in another one? speech is it true he can get hired? >> richard: be seen in other cases. of an officer being let go and getting a job som...

Problem solving that honors people who live there, regardless of their background and their family heritage, then you have to listen. because you have to find a different type of solution. at this point, it's been an impossibility, unfortunately. like with china, you can't expect to do the same thing and get different results. maybe people over who love israel and who want peace indeed between the palestinians and the state of israel, maybe they want someone other than benjamin netanyahu to lift them out of the impasse. maybe they want a more nontraditional politician. >> gillian: area seems t...

So he objectified girls and shared them freely. the people who took advantage of that should absolutely be punished, regardless of whether or not jeffrey epstein is rotting in hell. >> melissa: what's important about this moment in time as we hear more about the story -- you combined with people coming over the border in the south for sex trafficking reasons. i think the majority of americans didn't realize there was sex trafficking and sex slavery in the united states. when i talk to people who weren't involved in the news business before this, they felt it was something that went on and the ...

Be outed and punished. so in the future people with the sickness wanting to take advantage of something like this don't get involved because they know they will be consequences. there obviously hasn't been. it's not enough that something happens to jeffrey epstein. the victims obviously need retribution. but everybody who is involved needs to be outed and ashamed to stop it from happening again in the future. >> richard: i think that's right. two points on this, and i will be brief. one, nobody is buying the timeline. nobody is. number two, to speak to your point, gillian -- the fact that this...

Details about epstein. now we are hearing that he was videotaping all of his friends who were coming as they procured these young women. they sexually violated and abused these young women. they stole their innocence, treated them like objects. epstein did that in order to cover his own backside. >> gillian: isn't there something -- what i keep thinking about with the prince andrew element, if these allegations add up to something later on, does that make this entire episode more sinister? you don't just have this trafficking ring run by an american -- it's actually got international component...