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Been projecting from the beginning. but certainly they can't be happy with the number of sign-ups up to this moment s and the site still isn't up and running correctly. jon: yeah. job that, we're on the -- joan that, we've got 11 days until december, and december's when all these people have to get signed up, right? >> that's when a lot of them have to sign up, and they have to pay something starting this the new year. first of all, it's really important to remember that the serious critics of obamacare never really spent much time, you know, saying, oh, the web site's going to be a disaster. ...

President. they are nervous because the political firestorm that is raging around his health care law that we talked about in the a block is going to cost them possibly their seats in next year's midterm elections. charles crow hammer doesn't think they're going to be able to escape the rollout disaster though. here's him. >> the president now is toxic. the thing is called obama care. there's no running away from it. it's got his name on it. you see the president and you think about the policy and you know it's a disaster. the problem for the democrats is they are hostage to a bunch of geeks w...

President. they are nervous because the political firestorm that is raging around his health care law that we talked about in the a block is going to cost them possibly their seats in next year's midterm elections. charles crow hammer doesn't think they're going to be able to escape the rollout disaster though. here's him. >> the president now is toxic. the thing is called obama care. there's no running away from it. it's got his name on it. you see the president and you think about the policy and you know it's a disaster. the problem for the democrats is they are hostage to a bunch of geeks w...

Late into the night trying to fix a system that's not just glitches. the architecture, underlying structure is wrong. i think the likelihood of it being fixed and working like any commercial private website normally by december 1 is pretty small. the pressure on the white house will become irresistible. if it isn't up and running smoothly and perfectly, they're going to start postponements then the whole thing starts to unravel. >> take a listen to another sound bite from the nbc interview with the president. >> i regret very much that what we intended to do which is to make sure that everybod...

Complication. if a tree falls and there is nobody 2there to hear it, or ho could it be wrong if it's not wrong? you get into areas of retroactivity. sfims this they can be appli applied retroactively. >> so you're saying if you cut a break for bosses who can now delay offering this coverage, then those requirements are not in place or delayed for individual workers who have to saddle up to some sort of coverage and soon. so their grounds for a suit is that it's not fair or that the system really isn't up and running, you can't force me to belong to something that isn't there. >> right. all of ...