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Here. >> not true. >> if disrespect -- industry notwithstanding, paul? >> well, yes, actually, it is. for mr. issa today, the inspector general of the i.r.s. who first blew the whistle, i thought it was an accurate story, true story, that conservatives have been targeted. that is reprehensible. he said liberals were, too. progressive groups were as well. this is now a scandal in search of a scandal. in other words, there's no political angle that i've seen in the reporting. mr. issa has made an enormous mistake. this is a democracy. in all of those examples people were allowed to speak their m...

Senator, i've been on this committee for 20 years. >> members, if you could yield your time -- >> i will have you physically removed from this meeting if you don't stop. >> the reforms i'm proposing would not apply to those here illegally. >> you lie! >> that's not true. >> is disrespect in washington getting worse? distant history not with standing, paul? >> well, yes, it is. that is a pretty disgraceful. for mr. issa today, the inspector general of the irs who first blew the whistle on this, saying that conservatives had been targeted. if so, that is reprehensible. he's now come out and said...

Americans hate congress. this is an organization that's supposed to be providing leadership and seriousness in this country. it turns out cummings was criticizing issa for releasing evidence to fox news but not the committee. so choosing to go to the media first. issa saying lerner was targeting these conservative groups. media matters says they show lerner specifically instructed colleagues not to target groups because of their political leapings. so is he being dishonest? >> lois lerner took the fifth. if she was doing her job, why did she take the fifth? let's not lose sight of the big pict...

There has not been one single vote on these 99 sepenas. in many instances, he issues the subpoenas and we find out about them in the newspaper. >> wow. how do you explain that, congressman? >> i think that unfortunately, chairman issa has made a decision that he wants more attention. when this benghazi issue was taken away from our committee, we suddenly saw a huge spike in the number of subpoenas going out. and i think it's sad because it just undermines everything that we're trying to do. as i told chairman issa today, i said, look, you know, if you want to go far, you go with other. if you ...