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And he's telling his party that they will still have to move towards joe manchin a little bit. they will have to cut down from the over $3 trillion spending s a safety net. one of the leaders is offering a peek into this conversation and what it will take to fund their priorities. >> we're not thinking about the number, and the president said this to us, too. he said, don't start with the number, start with what you're for, and that's what he's asking for, and then we'll come tie number. >> so if we're not looking at numbers, what about 1.5? >> that's not going to happen -- >> why won't it add...

>> what about 1.5? >> that's not going to happen. >> why is that -- why won't it add up to that? >> that's too small to get our priorities in. it's going to be between 1.5 and 3.5. i think the white house is working on that right now. >> across the aisle, as you can imagine, republicans are practically giddy at the sight of all of this dysfunction. wyoming senator made clear this morning. >> i thought joe biden went to the hill on friday to try to get that bipartisan infrastructure bill passed. instead, he surrendered to the radical wing of his party and now you have this big government social...

If moderates like senator manchin wanting $1.5 trillion are willing to go that high. progressives who have already compromised down dismissed his offer earlier today. >> not looking at numbers what about 1.5? >> that's not going to happen. >> why won't it add up to that number? >> that's too small to get the priorities in. it between 1.5 and 3.5 and i think the white house is working on that right now. >> and now cnn learned president biden is hitting the road travels to michigan this week to try to rally the american public behind both pieces of legislation. so what do moderate democrats need...

You need to have a counter offer before you bid against yourself. >> if we're looking at numbers, how about 1.5. >> that's not going to happen. >> why won't it add up to that? >> that's too small to get the priorities in. eric: the progressives ain't budging, congressman andy business joint us, he's on the oversight committee. houston, we've got a problem, bill stuck in the mud. what do they do? >> yeah, well, you know, eric, they're exactly right. they're kind of stuck. they're going to come down on that number, i guarantee you. the problem is, this is about policy at some point and not just ...

It won't be $3.5 trillion. and more importantly, number two, what are your priorities.te bill and where can you make trimmed pramila jayapal was asked. watch. >> what we said from the beginning is it's never been about the price tag, it's what we want to deliver. i don't feel a need to give a number. i gave my number, it was $3.5. >> what about $1.5? >> that's not going to happen. it's going -- >> why won't it add up to that? >> that's too small to get our priorities in. that's going to be somewhere between $1.5 and $3.5, and i think the white house is working on that now. >> jayapal is the ch...