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This would be by sighing to sessions, i want you to stay so you can quash it and put it to death, that's evidence of criminal intent on the part of the president if the president felt the investigation was coming after him. on the other hand if he thought it was a waste of the resources of the justice department, that's legitimate thing and would not support obstruction. you need something more than that. this would be one of many points supporting obstruction. >> so norm, does it add to this mosaic as i hear so many describe it when you have a senior administration official who told cnn that ...

If they come back from the -- if they come back from the counsel's office with bad news, who knows how the president will react. the other issue here is if they are about the business of raising expectations that there's going to be some letter of exoneration and it isn't forthcoming, does it add to the drum beat that we see on the right just hammering mueller and the investigation as politically motivated. >> managing the president, rather than informing him in some case, whold whose job should it be within the white house? his lawyers to steer him back to reality? >> i think it's a combinati...

And he lashes out. and so my sense is that the lawyers are trying as much to manage the presents search and seizure events. but at some point the rubber hits the road. if they come back from the counsel's office with bad news, who knows how the president will react? the other issue here is, if they are about the business of raising expectations that there's going to be some letter of exoneration and it isn't forthcoming, does it add to this drum beat we now see on the right just hammering mueller and the investigation as politically motivated? >> david gergen, managing the president rather tha...

>> this is the third person associated with the trump team that reportedly reached out to wikileaks. roger stone said he was communicating with julian assange as was the head of the cambridge analytica, the data firm contracted by the trump campaign. does it add to up collusion for you? >> maybe collusion with a small "c" in the political cultural sense. anderson, let's be very candid. the campaign was talking to wikileaks about stolen goods, stolen american privacy. keep the russians off stage just for the moment. wikileaks had e-mails for which they were not the intended recipient. someone s...

If there is any question falling short. there are significant differences on that. touch does it add to the deficit and people like jeff flake who are concerned about the numbers coming out on the senate. they want to push this through quickly. they can appease the members as well as just to get it through so they can pass it on in asome majority vote without democrats. >> the big problem in the senate, if you don't do this, you change it and undo part of the roll back, you have to fill