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Testing process. >> right. in fact, one of the things that -- anyone who ships a large technology project recognizes that you have to get through a lot of failure to get to a working system. >> and it's the process of failure and feedback that makes a system work. >> that's exactly right. so what they did in a way, they saved up all the failure more after the public launch. >> that's really important. >> and the real managerial failure, the thing that finally made me blow my stack, as i did the other day, was recognizing that on october 1st, when obama was going to go out to the public to talk...

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