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Remember is that the conservative base that helped elect president trump is so opposed to what he proposed, about allowing any of them to stay legally. they consider it amnesty, they consider it a broken campaign promise and many of them will listen to what john kelly said and say -- >> he's right. >> atta boy. so that's sort of the lens we have to remember to look at this through, even though what you kind of put your finger on is really important, that we are at a very sensitive time in the negotiations, about what to do legislative and legal ly, going forward with these dreamers. >> we want...

Legalization. indeed, i led the fight against his legalization and amnesty bill. >> does ted cruz rule out ever legalizing people in this country illegally now. >> legalization -- >> do you rule it out. >> i never supported legalization and i do not intend to support legalization. >> tuesday's debate, cruz tried to pin down rubio as proponent of president obama's policies and calling it amnesty. rubio's co-authorship of the bill has come back to haunt him with conservatives, something rubio notes. >> i recognize that my position is not a majority position in my party, maybe even not majority p...

Reunification. she talked about the tension. she said essentially everything that the prototypical dreamer or hispanic voter would want to hear. we always complain about politicians not taking any positions, dancing around the issues. there was none of that today. i think she was baiting the republican candidates to come after her, call it amnesty, say it's lawlessness, say whatever you want she's going after that demographic. >> john makes a great point that this wasn't wishy washy. she has now enunciated a bunch of positions she now has to defend or essentially flip from. they're on the reco...

Necessarily, i just want every state and every student to have good standards. so he's not getting wrapped around the axel on that. when it came to immigration what he was saying was also moving towards his party which was we have to enforce first. his message you have to do enforcement first. he obviously disagrees with a lot of people in that hall and in his party about how to do a pathway to citizenship as he calls it they call it amnesty. but he was moving in their direction and saying enforcement has to come before you do any amnesty on the backside. >> we heard that same sort of thing fr...

Case. but that is where we are on this issue. it's a very emotional, explosive issue and the people who feel the way they feel about it are powerful. this is not something the country is unanimous. the country favors immigration reform broadly speaking. nobody is for amnesty and nobody says they are. >> of course, i think that term is not being used in the way it's phrased in the dictionary by people like laura. but i'll let her respond in a minute. however, i want to get this on camera first. we just got erjake cantor's remarks. we'll let the viewers decide for themselves. the now defeated ho...