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When in doubt differ on the side of life. to that bottom line of the united states it's going to be an issue of democracy. that means justices defer to the legislator. it should be a question for the people. >> real quickly one thing that came up earlier with senator graham, and i think given previous to that was to talk about when does life begin? is it at this point? he gave a very early point. an indicator is that when they have to do something with that unborn child they give it anesthesia. they give it something to kill the pain. so clearly if it can feel pain -- and he went on to make th...

But it was also pretty hilarious >> it's like tipping cows back in college. remember that? >> yeah, yeah. >> all right. >> i don't really know how they survived so long in this world if that's their instinct when they get chased, to lock up and fall over. you don't think they would last very long. >> all right. so you were hanging out with some lions. did they need a little dentistry work? what was the deal? >> they do. well, in the wild, nature takes its course and they end up dying earlier than in captivity. in captivity, they don't take them in very often, but every few years, you do put th...