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>> in some of these states you have collective bargaining laws that are so weighted in favor of the public employees that there is almost no bargaining. we've given them a machine gun put right at the heads of the local officials and they really have had their hands tied. >> what is this glenn beck talk? that's how glenn beck talks. >> when john boehner back slides, he really back slides. >> what amazes me about this whole thing, it's probably been a half a century or more before the issue of collect of it bargaining was front and center in a presidential campaign. maybe '84, but not really. n...

Joining us now are two men who strongly oppose what governor walker is propose, president of the afl-cio and a lieutenant with the madison fire department, president of the professional firefighters union. gentlemen, welcome. >> thanks for having me on. >> thank you for having me. >> richard, will the let me sta you. are we seeing an all out assault on the right of collect of it bargaining in the public sector? >> absolute pi. you' ly. you're seeing pay back for the big political donors that put billions in the last election. they're trying to take away the rights of wisconsin workers and penn...