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World stage when he has once again got everybody afraid of him. wondering what it is that he's going to do. is it possible right now to sauce out whether russia will invade ukraine, and either expand its existing war or start a whole new level of war there. the white house made sounds today after this call that there are things we could do in response, that would be crippling for russia, that would be terrible, things we never count from contemplated doing to them. is it true, is a spin, is it bluster? putin clearly started this, he appears to be testing the u.s. government and the internation...

Now. not only militarily but also economically. trump administration likes to talk about testimony the left called it bluster. but now that biden's office are taking it seriously, i applaud them. anyone who is paying attention knew this was an issue. >> bret: all right, winners and losers, ben? , really quick. >> two sides of the coin loudoun county parents vs. the loudoun county school board. the revelations of what that superintendent of that school board hid about what they knew about a bathroom sexual assault coming clear this week. an incredible story that is terrifying parents across the...

Although that was a particular spectacular thing. >> i know that you write in your piece that the line between hype and fraud is often blurry and comes into focus only in retrospect. so let me put the question to you, iowa pointed aussie cross the line in their fake it until you make it bluster? was it a conference call you reported on, or what you recall is the turning point in all of this? >> i'm not sure, the thing with aussie was that they had this idea for one media audit be, which is bipartisan -- having hot thoughtful conversations across party lines. and you know what, there's probably...

There's ongoing studies with pfizer and moderna with how effective they are and safe they are. there could be approval for emergency use very, very quickly in terms of the pfizer vaccine, i believe, but reports aren't, you know, set or public yet because the research is still happening. >> and one more for you. obviously we've heard from a lot of republican governors particularly down in the south who have been really angry about the vaccine mandates who will try to block these things. where does that stand right now? has any of it fell through or is it bluster at the moment? >> some have move...

Particular were benefiting from name recognition early on now you see candidates that are winning voters over with their campaigns and with their ideas and their energy and so i think we're starting to see things even out a little bit and in the debates it will be even more so. >> i was in. iowa over the weekend. there's a lot of people who want somebody to inspire them. they are doing the homework. they are going from place to place listening to these candidates. opportunities abound in iowa. thank you both. a reminder msnbc road warriors all the democratic contenders are on the road to mia...