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Day long. >> i know tommy and i've dealt with him when he was at msc. i think that was tommy being tommy and he just -- he felt comfortable in that moment to say that. but i was kind of shocked when it happened. which took me a second to come back and say dude, you know, i reduded him. >> and you kept going in that interview. >> yeah. >> beyond what you had planned. >> well, yeah. we were getting a lot more things that actually seemed fairly newsworthy. so we kept on asking questions and moved things around to be able to facilitate that. >> let me circle back to the book. it's not all serious....

That's what bureaucrats do all day long. >> i know tommy and i've dealt with him when he was at msc. i think that was tommy being tommy and he just -- he felt comfortable in that moment to say that. but i was kind of shocked when it happened. which took me a second to come back and say dude, you know, i reduded him. >> and you kept going in that interview. >> yeah. >> beyond what you had planned. >> well, yeah. we were getting a lot more things that actually seemed fairly newsworthy. so we kept on asking questions and moved things around to be able to facilitate that. >> let me circle back to ...

Points. that's what bureaucrats do all day long. >> i know tommy, and have i dealt with him when he was at nsc. i think that was tommy being tommy, and he just felt comfortable in that moment to say that. and -- but i was kind of shocked when it happened, which took me a second to come back and say, dude, i re-duded him. >> and you kept going in that interview. >> yeah. >> beyond what you had planned? >> we were getting a lot more things that seemed fairly newsworthy. so we kept on asking questions. and moved things around to be able to facilitate that. >> let me circle back to the book. it's ...