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They're the right age and no longer good for photographs to pay and play gets put into a hunting situation. >> those poor volunteers think they're really doing something for conversation. in the meantime, they're looking after the predator owner's animals, hand rearing them, giving them milk and they sleep with them and that type of stuff. that's not conservation. >> everyone wants to pet a lion cub or play with a lion cub. they want a photograph of themselves on facebook with a lion cub. and the wool is pulled over their eyes. they have no idea in many cases. >> the feedback we get from most ...

>> there is no conservation with these breeding lions in captivity. i think it's time the guys involved in that were actually honest and say this is a commercial venture. don't try to call it conservation. don't try to pretend that it's saving lions in the wild. >> a lot of people talk about conservation, but hunters are the real conservationists. the most effort, the most money, those are the people actually in the field. >> i'm an animal lover, therefore i'm a hunter. ♪ [engine revving] ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪

These breeding lions. i think it's time the guys involved in it were actually honest and say this is a commercial venture. don't try to call it conservation. don't try to pretend that it's saving lions in the wild. >> a lot of people talk about conservation, but hunters are the real conservationists. the most effort, the most money, those are the people actually in the field. >> i'm an animal lover, therefore i'm a hunter. s you. guess what: your insurance company will only give you 37-thousand to replace it. "depreciation" they claim. "how can my car depreciate before it's first oil change?" ...

>> those poor volunteers really think they're doing something for conservation. in the meantime, they're looking after the predator owner's animals. that's not conservation. >> everyone wants to pet a lion cub or play with a lion cub. and the wool is pulled over their eyes. they have no idea in many cases. >> the feedback we get from most of these facilities is that we don't breed and that we're not involved in canned hunting. so, of course, that begs the question, where do all these cubs come from and where do all these older lions go? >> there is no conservation with these breeding lions. i ...

Ben, perhaps you hear the sentiments of protesters young and old, they are asking how is it conservation means killing an animal first. >> we just raised the most money that's ever been raised at one time for black rhino conservation. we're extremely happy and proud of the money we've raised. we know an effort now that will help increase black rhino population to this auction. >> to what extent and all $350,000 raised is going toward conservation? to what extent do you believe this conservation effort will help assist the black rhino. >> that's an easy answer, because namibia is a small countr...