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They're the right age and no longer good for photographs to pay and play gets put into a hunting situation. >> those poor volunteers think they're really doing something for conversation. in the meantime, they're looking after the predator owner's animals, hand rearing them, giving them milk and they sleep with them and that type of stuff. that's not conservation. >> everyone wants to pet a lion cub or play with a lion cub. they want a photograph of themselves on facebook with a lion cub. and the wool is pulled over their eyes. they have no idea in many cases. >> the feedback we get from most ...

Facilities in south africa. >> so intensive breedings of lions is acceptable? >> it is a regulated activity. so yes, it is something that will be authorized, provided that certain conditions are met. >> okay, now we've just found the turnoff to zancheta. i haven't been here before, but i believe that they have a number of different species of cats, including lions, that they are breeding. >> we don't breed, maybe once every second year we get a litter, but we do not breed because of all the speculations and people saying you're just breeding for hunting. and we don't. that's not what we want.

>> we don't breed, maybe once every second year we get a litter, but we do not breed because of all the speculations and people saying you're just breeding for hunting. and we don't. that's not what we want. the cubs stay with her up until ten days and we take them away. >> what's interesting here is that there's this pretense in a way that this is different, they're a sanctuary. but halfway through the tour, it comes up that they're selling things so we're not sure of their credentials. >> milan is going to leave us next week. they're going to a game lodge where they will be reintroduced back...

Conservation, when, in fact, in many sad cases all they're doing is rearing a cub that when they're the right age and no longer good for photographs to pay and play gets put into a hunting situation. >> those poor volunteers really think they're doing something for conservation. in the meantime, they're looking after the predator owner's animals. that's not conservation. >> everyone wants to pet a lion cub or play with a lion cub. and the wool is pulled over their eyes. they have no idea in many cases. >> the feedback we get from most of these facilities is that we don't breed and that we're n...

>> those poor volunteers really think they're doing something for conservation. in the meantime, they're looking after the predator owner's animals. that's not conservation. >> everyone wants to pet a lion cub or play with a lion cub. and the wool is pulled over their eyes. they have no idea in many cases. >> the feedback we get from most of these facilities is that we don't breed and that we're not involved in canned hunting. so, of course, that begs the question, where do all these cubs come from and where do all these older lions go? >> there is no conservation with these breeding lions. i ...