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Up with the afl-cio some day? that couldn't be. it couldn't be. no. richard is on the board of the e.p.i ., the economic policy institute right here. e.p.i the president of the e.p.i . is a long-time member of the democratic socialist of america. you remember the flower and the rose it's important. democratic socialist of america. trumka sits on the board for the national jobs for all coalition. which has endorsed the friday night vigil for the jobs event they have going on. the afl-cio solidarity center is dedicated to building a global, a global labor movement this is a report that came out ...

>> that meant don't take them to the police. >> it couldn't be '62 because he wasn't even a cardinal. >> that's right -- >> i'm looking at a document that came out o the church in '62 that talked about, as joan was saying in this other regard, the vatican poly barring bishops from reporting abuse to priests -- why does the church not think of this of criminal? you used the term criminal. why not think of these as crimes. >> cardinal ratzinger -- >> hold it, joan. >> i just want to get that fact out. i'm not talking about '62. i'm talking about the early '80s, pat. >> all right, look, no doubt ...

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Is that this could still very well be an incident taking place. at this point in time london police giving all the information they can. it's unclear whether or not it's terror reletted. but i can tell you from where i am and how shaken the civilians are that people are taking this very, very seriously and the authorities are as well, ana. >> you talked about the gufr. do we know -- gunfire. do we know if that gunfire came from police or somebody else? >> well, you know what. it's unclear where that gunfire came from. certainly the eyewitness we spoke to didn't know where it came from. when i ...